Can Old Chimneys Be Repaired?

This discussion comes up fairly frequently.  It’s one of those questions that’s often answered by asking other questions during a conversation.  If you have an older house with an open burning fireplace and a masonry chimney, you may have some options that are worth giving serious thought to.

THE QUICK ANSWER!

If you’re looking for a fast ‘yes’ or ‘no’, to the question . . . it’s: yes!  Older masonry chimneys are often repaired, relined and rebuilt.  There are many trustworthy chimney repair businesses’ around, but be sure to check with your WE LOVE FIRE dealer, first.  Depending on the condition of the chimney, some of these projects can be quite extensive and may take several days to complete.  You will want to make sure you’re doing business with a reputable firm.

CHIMNEY LINER OR FLUE.

When we talk about repairing a chimney, we really need to discuss the chimney flue or liner.  Think of the exterior brick, block or stone that is seen from the ground.  This ‘chimney’ acts as the housing or conduit for the chimney flue/liner.  The function of a chimney flue is to simply route all the by-products of combustion out of the fireplace, stove or insert.  This flue liner also needs to withstand very hot temperatures in order to protect the chimney walls and the integrity of the chimney structure.

Most older masonry chimney liners are built of ceramic clay tiles.  These tiles are normally 24” in length.  The lengths were connected with mortar at the time the chimney was originally built.  However, both the mortar joints and the clay tiles can deteriorate over time because of the high flue temperatures and extreme weather conditions.  Damaged or missing flue tiles can be an extremely dangerous situation if left unchecked.  The National Fire Protection Association code (NFPA 211) states that every fireplace needs an approved and intact liner and must not have any cracks or holes.

OPTIONS FOR CLAY TILE FLUES.

Depending on the circumstances, there are a few possibilities that could be options to restore a masonry chimney flue liner.

If you plan to continue to burn wood in an open fireplace, removing the old tile liner and then installing a new cast-in-place liner may be your best bet.  This process involves pulverizing the old clay tile into small pieces and physically removing it from the chimney.  Based on the dimensions of the fireplace opening, a specific diameter form, (for example an 8” or 10” round form) is inserted into the chimney.  Then, an insulated, mortar-like mix is poured around the form.  The result is a perfectly sized, insulated liner for your fireplace that also improves the structural integrity of the chimney.  Usually, there are loose bricks, maybe a new chimney crown or other exterior brick work that will need to be completed before this re-lining process can be started.

A stainless steel liner, that is a single wall stainless pipe, may be an alternative to pouring a new cast-in-place liner.  If the plan is to install a wood burning insert into the fireplace opening, or position a wood burning stove on the hearth in front of the fireplace, this option would make the most sense.  The stainless steel liner would be matched to the size of the flue collar on the insert or stove, normally 6”.  The stainless liner can be a rigid pipe or a flexible pipe, or a combination of the two.  It is often wrapped with a ceramic fiber insulation jacket to improve the performance of the appliance by preventing the liner from cooling off too quickly.

OTHER OPTIONS:

If you only plan to burn a couple of wood fires around the holidays with family and friends, or if you want to keep the original ‘look’ of the fireplace and chimney intact, consider the rebuild/cast-in-place liner option.  However, if you want to use the fireplace on a regular basis and realize significant heat from the fuel that’s used, consider installing an insert.  Fireplace inserts are designed for wood, gas, pellets or electricity.

WOOD BURNING INSERTS:

A wood burning insert is basically a modified wood burning stove, with-out legs or a base, that’s slid into the existing fireplace.  Small, medium and large inserts are available, depending on the size of the old fireplace.  A 6” stainless steel liner is installed up the existing chimney.

GAS INSERTS:

Gas inserts, LP or natural, come in several sizes, too.  Electrical and gas supply lines will need to be installed into the fireplace.  These can often be routed from the basement into the clean-out cavity in the basement and up through the floor of the firebox.  Two, 3” or two, 4” aluminum vents are installed up the existing chimney to properly vent the gas insert.  This is a very popular option.  The convenience of gas speaks for itself.

Incidentally, this is also a good option if your chimney has deteriorated to the point where it’s a liability or simply not worth rebuilding.  If the chimney can be torn down below the roofline, the two vent pipes for a gas insert can be combined to one, co-axial pipe.  This co-ax pipe can be installed through the roof and flashed, thereby eliminating the need for the brick chimney above the roof.  (Keep in mind, if there is a second or third flue in the chimney that is still in service for a water heater or maybe another fireplace, removing the chimney below the roofline will not be possible.)

Before and after open brick chimney vs Ambiance fireplaces and grills Outlander 19i wood burning insert. Can Old Chimney be repaired?

HOW ABOUT PELLETS OR AN ELECTRIC INSERT?

Pellet inserts will need an electric source to operate.  A single 3” or 4” stainless steel pipe is installed up the existing chimney to properly vent it.  If the chimney is in poor condition above the roof, the process described above for the gas venting would be an option for a pellet insert vent pipe, too.

An electric fireplace insert will provide instant atmosphere and moderate heat.  Since no venting is necessary with an electric insert, the chimney of the old fireplace could be repaired if needed, torn down below the roof-line or sealed up.

FACTORY BUILT WOOD BURNING FIREPLACES:

If yours is a zero-clearance, factory built fireplace, the chimney will be an air-cooled, stainless steel, three wall pipe or an insulated, two wall stainless steel pipe.  These types of chimney pipe twist-lock together.  So, if it’s damaged or in need of repair, you might be able to replace a length or two of it, but more than likely you’ll need to replace the entire system.

WHAT’S NEXT?

If you’re seeing problems with the exterior of the chimney, and since chimney’s deteriorate from the inside, out . . . you can safely assume that the flue liner is going to need some attention.  If this is the case, your next step should be to contact your WE LOVE FIRE dealer and have your chimney professionally evaluated.  You have options and we’re happy to explain them to you.

Below is a list of fireplace and grill stores that service Ontario (ON)

Ajax, ON

Topfire Fireplace and Barbecue Inc.
487 Westney Rd. S
Ajax, ON L1S 6W8

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Aurora, ON

Topfire Fireplace and Barbecue Inc.
15483 Yonge St., Unit 1C
Aurora, ON L4G 1P3

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Belleville, ON

Friendly Fires
69, Dundas East
Belleville, ON K8N 1B9

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Burlington, ON

Barbecues Galore
3100 Harvester Road
Burlington, ON L7N 3W8

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Cambridge, ON

Bast Home Comfort Inc.
471 Hespeler Rd. 
Cambridge, ON N1R 6J2

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Carleton Place, ON

Friendly Fires
11384 Highway 7
Carleton Place, ON K7C 3P1

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Cobourg, ON

Friendly Fires
70 King Street East
Cobourg, ON K9A 1K9

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Collingwood, ON

Chantico Fireplace Gallery Inc
209784 Hwy 26
Blue Mountains, ON L9Y 0L8

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Concord, ON

The Fireplace Specialist
19-391 Edgeley Blvd.
Concord, ON L4K 4A7

Etobicoke, ON

Barbecues Galore
1470 The Queensway
Etobicoke, ON M8Z 1T5

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Goderich, ON

Huron Fireplaces
308 Huron Rd
Goderich, ON N7A 3A2

Hamilton, ON

Chadwicks & Hacks
682 Fennell Avenue East
Hamilton, ON L8V 1V4

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Huntsville, ON

The Fireplace King inc.
14 Howland Drive, Unit 1
Huntsville, ON P1H1M3

Kincardine, ON

Chantico Fireplace Gallery Inc
6 Ashfield-Huron
Kincardine, ON N2Z 2X3

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Kingston, ON

Friendly Fires
271 Dalton Ave.
Kingston, ON K7K 6Z1

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London, ON

Porky's BBQ & Leisure
1075 Sarnia Road
London, ON N6H 5J9

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Markham, ON

Kastle Fireplace LTD
8294 York Durham Line
Markham, ON L0H 1J0

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Meaford, ON

Chantico Fireplace Gallery Inc
158185 7th Line
Meaford, ON N4L 1W5

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Mississauga, ON

Ontario Hearth Fireplaces
3425 Laird Road Unit #2
Mississauga, ON L5L 5R8

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Niagara Falls, ON

The One Stop Fireplace Shop LTD
4332 Drummond Road
Niagara Falls, ON L2E 6C3

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North York, ON

The Fireplace Company
2854 Dufferin St.
North York, ON M6B 3S3

Oakville, ON

Barbecues Galore
490 Speers Road
Oakville, ON L6K 2G3

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Orangeville, ON

Its in the Shed
7 Little York Street
Orangeville, ON L9W 1L8

Ottawa, ON

Capital BBQ
12 Grenfell Crescent
Ottawa, ON K2G 0G2

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Pembroke, ON

Performance Woodburning & Gas
204 Boundary Road East
Pembroke, ON K8A 6W4

Penetanguishene, ON

Home & Cottage Centre
4 Centennial Drive
Penetanguishene, ON L9M 1G8

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Peterborough, ON

Friendly Fires
971 Highway 7
Peterborough, ON K9J 6X7

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Sarnia, ON

A Village Fireplace Shop Ltd.
623 Broadway St
Wyoming, ON N0N1T0

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Stratford, ON

Tri-County Brick
320 Home st.
Stratford, ON N5A 7C9

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Sudbury, ON

Nordic Energy Systems LTD
2324 Long Lake Road
Sudbury, ON P3E 5H4

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Thunder Bay, ON

Bob's Woodburners & Fireplaces
803 Memorial Avenue
Thunder Bay, ON P7E 3Z7

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Toronto, ON

Marsh's Stoves & Fireplaces
3322 Dundas Street W
Toronto, ON M6P 2A4

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Waterloo, ON

Bast Home Comfort Inc.
12-620 Davenport Road
Waterloo, ON N2V 2C2

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Windsor, ON

Scott's Fireplace Select, Inc.
2 North Talbot Road
Maidstone, ON N0R 1K0

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For more information, contact your local fireplace and grill store.

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